A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 16 April 2012
This came up in a game..
Border Keep XP Limited: Once per game: Put one to three cards in your hand on the bottom of your deck. Draw cards equal to the number you put on the bottom.
Naoharu's Gift Show a card in your hand to another player. You offer it as a gift. He may put it in his hand; if he does, you gain Honor equal to its base Focus Value. If you showed a card and he did not put it in his hand, discard the card and draw two cards.
So the scenario is that i gave one of my cards to my opponent. And he put in his hand. So if he use the border keep xp ability, can he put my card at the bottom of his deck?
Assuming he can, if he shuffles, and especially if i use different sleeve, how do you handle the shuffling, since the card will be sticking out like a sore thumb?
Thanks.
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 16 April 2012
This came up in a game..
Border Keep XP Limited: Once per game: Put one to three cards in your hand on the bottom of your deck. Draw cards equal to the number you put on the bottom.
Naoharu's Gift Show a card in your hand to another player. You offer it as a gift. He may put it in his hand; if he does, you gain Honor equal to its base Focus Value. If you showed a card and he did not put it in his hand, discard the card and draw two cards.
So the scenario is that i gave one of my cards to my opponent. And he put in his hand. So if he use the border keep xp ability, can he put my card at the bottom of his deck?
Assuming he can, if he shuffles, and especially if i use different sleeve, how do you handle the shuffling, since the card will be sticking out like a sore thumb?
Thanks.
Cards will only enter their owners' decks, not other players'.
Areas of the game, decks: "If a card you own is about to enter another player’s deck, it enters your deck instead in the same manner."
So, should the other player choose your card in his had for Border Keep Exp's first effect, the Rules would make go to the bottom of YOUR deck instead of his. And, because "the bottom" in Border Keep's second effect only refers back to "the bottom" of his OWN deck, he would not draw a card for it.
A player, 25 June 2012
Hello, I know this has already been asked and answered here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=97421 But this situation came up at Kotei this weekend and the judge ruled that if I chose to put the card on bottom for Border Keep, that it would go to my opponents discard pile instead of the bottom of the deck. I believe he mentioned that it was a somewhat recent rules change that implied this, but I may be mistaken on that. So, is the linker ruling still correct, or has there been a rules change to make it work differently? Thank you!
Alex Jones (rules official), 26 June 2012
Hello, I know this has already been asked and answered here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=97421 But this situation came up at Kotei this weekend and the judge ruled that if I chose to put the card on bottom for Border Keep, that it would go to my opponents discard pile instead of the bottom of the deck. I believe he mentioned that it was a somewhat recent rules change that implied this, but I may be mistaken on that. So, is the linker ruling still correct, or has there been a rules change to make it work differently? Thank you!
Nothing has changed since the earlier question. The card goes to the bottom of its owner's deck, not yours, and you do not draw a card for it.