Kitsu Tamasine vs Shiro Chugo reaction

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 January 2012

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A player, 19 January 2012

Hello, Does the reaction on Shiro Chugo satisfy the condition of Kitsu Tamasine battle action? Or, tu put it in a more general way, is reduction of Honor gain considered to be a Honor loss?

Shiro Chugo Political Reaction: Before an action's resolution, choose your performing unbowed Courtier: Reduce any Honor gain or loss from the action's effects by 2

Kitsu Tamasine Battle: Bow Tamasine and target your Ancestor, or one to four of your Ancestors if you have lost Honor from another player's action during an Action Phase since your last turn began: Give each target +4F

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 19 January 2012

Hello, Does the reaction on Shiro Chugo satisfy the condition of Kitsu Tamasine battle action? Or, tu put it in a more general way, is reduction of Honor gain considered to be a Honor loss?

Shiro Chugo Political Reaction: Before an action's resolution, choose your performing unbowed Courtier: Reduce any Honor gain or loss from the action's effects by 2

Kitsu Tamasine Battle: Bow Tamasine and target your Ancestor, or one to four of your Ancestors if you have lost Honor from another player's action during an Action Phase since your last turn began: Give each target +4F

Family Honor: "If an Honor gain or loss is reduced or increased by another effect, the reduction or increase is not itself counted as an Honor gain or loss."