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A player, 17 January 2012
A few questions regarding the overlay effects of Oyo's Second Lesson and Waystation of the Path from "Kolat Edition"
1) Henshin A has used his printed ability. He is overlayed onto Henshin B using Waystation of the Path. Can Henshin A use his printed ability again this turn?
2) Henshin A was dueled and I used Honest of the Phoenix to delay the Henshin's destruction from losing the duel. Then, later that turn, as a reaction to a different destruction effect, I use Waystation of the Path to overlay Henshin A onto Henshin B. Will the overlayed Henshin be subject to the delayed effects from the earlier duel?
3) Same as question 2, except Henshin B was the subject of the original duel and had HIS destruction delayed, then Henshin A was overlayed onto Henshin B. Result?
4) A dishonhorably dead Henshin is overlayed onto an honorable Henshin using Oyo's Second Lesson. Is the resulting personality honorable or dishonorable?
5) An honorably dead Henshin is overlayed onto a dishonorable Henshin using Oyo's Second Lesson. Is the resulting personality honorable or dishonorable?
EDIT: 6) How does overlaying interact with "granted abilities" like the abilities granted by Spirit of the Monk or The Emerald Championship? If Henshin A has been granted the battle ability by Spirit of the Monk, and I overlay Henshin A onto Henshin B, does the resulting personality have the granted ability? What if I overlay Henshin B onto Henshin A?
Thank you for your help!
Jon Palmer (rules official), 21 February 2012
A few questions regarding the overlay effects of Oyo's Second Lesson and Waystation of the Path from "Kolat Edition"
1) Henshin A has used his printed ability. He is overlayed onto Henshin B using Waystation of the Path. Can Henshin A use his printed ability again this turn?
2) Henshin A was dueled and I used Honest of the Phoenix to delay the Henshin's destruction from losing the duel. Then, later that turn, as a reaction to a different destruction effect, I use Waystation of the Path to overlay Henshin A onto Henshin B. Will the overlayed Henshin be subject to the delayed effects from the earlier duel?
3) Same as question 2, except Henshin B was the subject of the original duel and had HIS destruction delayed, then Henshin A was overlayed onto Henshin B. Result?
4) A dishonhorably dead Henshin is overlayed onto an honorable Henshin using Oyo's Second Lesson. Is the resulting personality honorable or dishonorable?
5) An honorably dead Henshin is overlayed onto a dishonorable Henshin using Oyo's Second Lesson. Is the resulting personality honorable or dishonorable?
EDIT: 6) How does overlaying interact with "granted abilities" like the abilities granted by Spirit of the Monk or The Emerald Championship? If Henshin A has been granted the battle ability by Spirit of the Monk, and I overlay Henshin A onto Henshin B, does the resulting personality have the granted ability? What if I overlay Henshin B onto Henshin A?
Thank you for your help!
2. Ongoing effects on the overlaying Personality do not carry to the new Personality. There is no delayed destruction in this case.
3. Ongoing effects DO carry over from the overlaid Personality. In this case the new Personality will be destroyed as per Honesty of the Phoenix.
4/5. Per the general rules on overlaying, honorable and dishonorable status are inherited from the overlaid Personality.
6. Likewise, ongoing effects such as granted abilities carry over from the overlaid Personality, not the overlaying Personality.
I've bumped #1, I just need a little more clarification but I'll get that to you ASAP.
Jon Palmer (rules official), 22 February 2012
1. The use of the ability stays with Henshin A, so when he overlays, he is considered to have already used the ability this turn.