Ten Thousand Temples and honor loss from I Give You My Name

L5R CCG Rules board, 16 January 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 16 January 2012

I've Ten Thousand Temples in play and i'm going to use I Give You My Name to bring Ugulu no Oni in play. How much Family Honor i lose? 2 or 5?

Ten Thousand Temples Region Before you lose Honor, destroy this card: Negate the Honor loss.

I Give You My Name Spell Limited: Bow this Shugenja and destroy your target Human Personality: Search your Dynasty deck or discard pile for a non-Unique Oni with Gold Cost lower than or equal to the Human's Gold Cost plus the performer's Chi. Put the Oni into play, ignoring Gold cost. Lose 2 Honor.

Ugulu no Oni Personality After Ugulu enters play: Lose 5 Honor.

Alex Jones (rules official), 16 January 2012

I've Ten Thousand Temples in play and i'm going to use I Give You My Name to bring Ugulu no Oni in play. How much Family Honor i lose? 2 or 5?

Ten Thousand Temples Region Before you lose Honor, destroy this card: Negate the Honor loss.

I Give You My Name Spell Limited: Bow this Shugenja and destroy your target Human Personality: Search your Dynasty deck or discard pile for a non-Unique Oni with Gold Cost lower than or equal to the Human's Gold Cost plus the performer's Chi. Put the Oni into play, ignoring Gold cost. Lose 2 Honor.

Ugulu no Oni Personality After Ugulu enters play: Lose 5 Honor.

You will lose 2 honour.

Working through the effects of I Give You My Name, you put Oni no Ugulu into play, causing you to lose 5 honour, but Ten Thousand Temples negates this loss. You then move to the next effect of I Give You My Name and lose 2 honour.