Successful Bounty & Scandalous Rumors

L5R CCG Rules board, 3 January 2012 to 4 January 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 3 January 2012

Successful Bounty: Until your Events Phase three turns from now begins, after each time a Personality opposing a Magistrate or Courtier becomes dishonorable from an action, the Personality's controller loses 2 Honor.

Scandalous Rumors: Political / Battle: Bow your performing Courtier at any location: The Attacker may target any of his Personalities at the current battlefield and move them home. He loses 1 Honor for each of his Personalities there that this did not move, then dishonors them.

Question: If I have a Courtier or a Magistrate opposing my enemy's units at the current battlefield when Scandalous Rumors is played while Successful Bounty is active, how much honor does my opponent lose (say he keeps 3 units at the battlefield and dishonors each in turn)? I understand the honor loss from Scandalous Rumors is considered a single honor loss, but the wording of Successful Bounty seems to imply that my opponent must lose 2 Honor for each personality affected since it speaks about the "Personality" in the singular tense...

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 4 January 2012

Successful Bounty: Until your Events Phase three turns from now begins, after each time a Personality opposing a Magistrate or Courtier becomes dishonorable from an action, the Personality's controller loses 2 Honor.

Scandalous Rumors: Political / Battle: Bow your performing Courtier at any location: The Attacker may target any of his Personalities at the current battlefield and move them home. He loses 1 Honor for each of his Personalities there that this did not move, then dishonors them.

Question: If I have a Courtier or a Magistrate opposing my enemy's units at the current battlefield when Scandalous Rumors is played while Successful Bounty is active, how much honor does my opponent lose (say he keeps 3 units at the battlefield and dishonors each in turn)? I understand the honor loss from Scandalous Rumors is considered a single honor loss, but the wording of Successful Bounty seems to imply that my opponent must lose 2 Honor for each personality affected since it speaks about the "Personality" in the singular tense...

That's right.

In your scenario, the other player takes a single loss of 3 Honor from Scandalous Rumors for keeping 3 people at the battlefield.

Then, as they're dishonored, Successful Bounty's effect triggers separately for each of them, dishing out 3 more individual losses of 2 Honor apiece.

Total of the losses: 9 Honor. Ouch!