(somewhat related to viewtopic.php?f=59&t=92052&p=1220353 ) Whispers of the Dying Sun: Choose a (non-Stronghold) card in play. Each of its base abilities may be used one additional time this turn. If I target a card with a 'once per battle' ability, does the additional use of it have to occur in the first battle resolved that turn (1 below), the first battle where the ability is initially used (2 below), or any battle (3 below)? To clarify: 1: If I have my Tactical Advisors at Battlefield B, and my opponent resolves battlefield A first, is my additional use lost since I didn't use my additional time during the first eligible time period? 2/3:If I use my Tactical Advisors at battlefield A, does my additional use from Whispers of the Dying Sun also have to be at battlefield A, or could my unit move to battlefield B and then use its ability twice?
Whispers of the Dying Sun and Once Per Battle
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(somewhat related to viewtopic.php?f=59&t=92052&p=1220353 ) Whispers of the Dying Sun: Choose a (non-Stronghold) card in play. Each of its base abilities may be used one additional time this turn. If I target a card with a 'once per battle' ability, does the additional use of it have to occur in the first battle resolved that turn (1 below), the first battle where the ability is initially used (2 below), or any battle (3 below)? To clarify: 1: If I have my Tactical Advisors at Battlefield B, and my opponent resolves battlefield A first, is my additional use lost since I didn't use my additional time during the first eligible time period? 2/3:If I use my Tactical Advisors at battlefield A, does my additional use from Whispers of the Dying Sun also have to be at battlefield A, or could my unit move to battlefield B and then use its ability twice?
There's no requirement that it be used in the first possible time frame. However, "one additional time per turn" does not in this case completely override the limitation of "once per battle" (per the earlier rulings, the override flows up but does not flow down).
Therefore, Whispers of the Dying Sun is not going to allow you extra utility from a Once per Battle or Once per Phase ability.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=95097
So, for clarity's sake, targeting a card with a once+ per battle/once+ per phase action will 'waste' Whispers of the Dying Sun, but targeting a card with once+ per game/once+ per turn won't?
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=95097
So, for clarity's sake, targeting a card with a once+ per battle/once+ per phase action will 'waste' Whispers of the Dying Sun, but targeting a card with once+ per game/once+ per turn won't?
Correct. I've updated the other thread to be more clear.