Yoritomo Sachina

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 October 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 15 October 2011

I know that this topic was already on forum, but it's locked and I didn't found answer(s) there... first of all..because after previous topic of Sachina I must admit that I'm confused now...does she steal personality until end of the turn or until she dies? second thing: if I would steal personality with attachments, do I control them or the opponent? I mean every kind of attachments, spells, followers and items. (I think the spells are most tricky here because (if I good remember) according to the rulebook, they represents the abilities of shugenja.) It's not obvious for me because Sachina ability states: "(...) pay gold equal to his UNIT"S total gold cost plus four (..)." If I control attachments of stoles personality (but I believe that I'm not control them anyway) can I use this attachments? Or if I do not control them, can opponent use them against me? Or If I would assign stolen personality as a attacker into battle and opponent would send this personality home from 'rout' (Move a target unit home. Destroy one of its attachments (if any)) then destroyed attachment goes to which discard pile? thanks for answers and sorry for doubled topic

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 15 October 2011

I know that this topic was already on forum, but it's locked and I didn't found answer(s) there... first of all..because after previous topic of Sachina I must admit that I'm confused now...does she steal personality until end of the turn or until she dies? second thing: if I would steal personality with attachments, do I control them or the opponent? I mean every kind of attachments, spells, followers and items. (I think the spells are most tricky here because (if I good remember) according to the rulebook, they represents the abilities of shugenja.) It's not obvious for me because Sachina ability states: "(...) pay gold equal to his UNIT"S total gold cost plus four (..)." If I control attachments of stoles personality (but I believe that I'm not control them anyway) can I use this attachments? Or if I do not control them, can opponent use them against me? Or If I would assign stolen personality as a attacker into battle and opponent would send this personality home from 'rout' (Move a target unit home. Destroy one of its attachments (if any)) then destroyed attachment goes to which discard pile? thanks for answers and sorry for doubled topic

The answers to your questions are right next to each other in the wiki, here: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Physically_mark ... rd_control

1. "Changing control is instantaneous and does not have a duration." That is, this is not an effect that goes away at the end of the turn.

2. "Control of a unit is determined by who controls its Personality(.)" If yo take control of someone with Sachina, you also control all the attachments.

I appreciate that you indicated the set, but the rule team generally prefers if you mention Experienced levels when there are multiple versions of a card. The Experienced level is usually a bit easier to find.