A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 17 June 2011
Say I attack a province with one or more naval personalities and my opponent defends with Shosuro Toson. If I react to declare naval then Toson reacts, discarding a personality from his own province, who gets the first action? Is it a first come, first serve basis or can the first action be stolen from me by a later reaction?
Naval Reaction: After engaging, once per battle, if you are the Attacker and your current army has more Naval cards than the side opposing it, target your Naval Personality: You have the first opportunity to take a Battle action, which must be performed by the targeted Personality.
Toson Reaction: After engaging at Toson's battlefield: Discard a card from the current battlefield's province.If this discarded a Personality, you have the first oppurtunity to take a Battle action in this battle, which must be performed by Toson.
Alex Jones (rules official), 18 June 2011
Say I attack a province with one or more naval personalities and my opponent defends with Shosuro Toson. If I react to declare naval then Toson reacts, discarding a personality from his own province, who gets the first action? Is it a first come, first serve basis or can the first action be stolen from me by a later reaction?
Naval Reaction: After engaging, once per battle, if you are the Attacker and your current army has more Naval cards than the side opposing it, target your Naval Personality: You have the first opportunity to take a Battle action, which must be performed by the targeted Personality.
Toson Reaction: After engaging at Toson's battlefield: Discard a card from the current battlefield's province.If this discarded a Personality, you have the first oppurtunity to take a Battle action in this battle, which must be performed by Toson.
The last such effect to be applied is the one that "wins".
A player, 21 June 2011
In regards to this viewtopic.php?f=59&t=91744
I just want to make sure I understand the flow of things. Player N-for-Naval attacks Player T-for-Toson. Player N attacks with more Naval guys, and Player T defends with Toson. After engaging, active player has first chance for a reaction. The way I see it, it can go one of these ways:
1) Player N (active): Pass the reaction. Player T: Pass the reaction. Result: Player T (defending) gets 1st action.
2) Player N (active): Declare Naval Player T: Announce Toson's ability Result: Player T gets the 1st action.
3) Player N (active): Pass the reaction Player T: Announce Toson's ability Player N: Declare Naval Result: Player N gets the 1st action.
So, unless Player T is playing badly (scenario 3), he can prevent player N from taking the first action either way (assuming no OTHER "take the first action" effects). Does that look correct?
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 21 June 2011
In regards to this viewtopic.php?f=59&t=91744
I just want to make sure I understand the flow of things. Player N-for-Naval attacks Player T-for-Toson. Player N attacks with more Naval guys, and Player T defends with Toson. After engaging, active player has first chance for a reaction. The way I see it, it can go one of these ways:
1) Player N (active): Pass the reaction. Player T: Pass the reaction. Result: Player T (defending) gets 1st action.
2) Player N (active): Declare Naval Player T: Announce Toson's ability Result: Player T gets the 1st action.
3) Player N (active): Pass the reaction Player T: Announce Toson's ability Player N: Declare Naval Result: Player N gets the 1st action.
So, unless Player T is playing badly (scenario 3), he can prevent player N from taking the first action either way (assuming no OTHER "take the first action" effects). Does that look correct?
That all looks correct.