Lion Paragon Questions

L5R CCG Rules board, 1 June 2011 to 3 June 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 1 June 2011

Iron Will Reaction: After another player targets your Paragon with a Battle action performed by a Personality with lower Personal Honor: The action's costs are ignored and its effects are negated. That player may take an additional Battle action.

Imperial Orders Political Battle: Bow one or more of your performing Courtiers at any location: Target a unit. Move it home if its total Force is less than or equal to the combined Personal Honor of the Courtiers performing this action. This movement will not be negated, and the Personality will not move again this turn.

Knife in the Darkness Ninja Battle: Target your Ninja Personality: Target an enemy Personality. Move both Personalities home; this movement will not be negated. Bow both of them.

lets say i used imperial orders/knife in the darkness on 1 of his attacking 4ph paragons then he reacted with iron will (courtiers/ninja having lower ph), what happened next?

Another Question: with akodo's guidance in play, player A attacks with 2 honorable matsu kinihara using the Shamate Keep stronghold, then player B defends and uses Shameful and Cowardly on M. Kinihara. what becomes of M. Kinihara's PH?

Thanks for the answers.

Alex Jones (rules official), 3 June 2011

Iron Will Reaction: After another player targets your Paragon with a Battle action performed by a Personality with lower Personal Honor: The action's costs are ignored and its effects are negated. That player may take an additional Battle action.

Imperial Orders Political Battle: Bow one or more of your performing Courtiers at any location: Target a unit. Move it home if its total Force is less than or equal to the combined Personal Honor of the Courtiers performing this action. This movement will not be negated, and the Personality will not move again this turn.

Knife in the Darkness Ninja Battle: Target your Ninja Personality: Target an enemy Personality. Move both Personalities home; this movement will not be negated. Bow both of them.

lets say i used imperial orders/knife in the darkness on 1 of his attacking 4ph paragons then he reacted with iron will (courtiers/ninja having lower ph), what happened next?

Another Question: with akodo's guidance in play, player A attacks with 2 honorable matsu kinihara using the Shamate Keep stronghold, then player B defends and uses Shameful and Cowardly on M. Kinihara. what becomes of M. Kinihara's PH?

Thanks for the answers.

Iron Will vs Knife In the Darkness: The effect "Move both Personalities home" will not be negated, so that still happens; neither Personality bows, however.

Iron Will vs Imperial Orders: The cost "Bow ... your performing Courtiers" is ignored; the Courtiers do not bow. The movement home will not be negated, so that still happens. However, the ongoing effect "the Personality will not move" is negated.

The dishonourable Matsu Kinihara's personal honour is his base personal honour, 4.