Wanyudo and Shadow Plays

L5R CCG Rules board, 6 March 2011 to 7 March 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 6 March 2011

If a ninja has taken my Wanyudo with Shadow Plays, and I then destroy Wanyudo, can the ninja player use the dead follower's reaction to remove a card of mine from the game?

Relevant Text:

Wanyudo: After this card enters play: Lose 4 Honor. Reaction: After the resolution of another player's Battle action that destroyed this card or its Personality: Target a card without attachments in an enemy unit at the current battlefield. Remove it from the game.

Thanks

Alex Jones (rules official), 7 March 2011

If a ninja has taken my Wanyudo with Shadow Plays, and I then destroy Wanyudo, can the ninja player use the dead follower's reaction to remove a card of mine from the game?

Relevant Text:

Wanyudo: After this card enters play: Lose 4 Honor. Reaction: After the resolution of another player's Battle action that destroyed this card or its Personality: Target a card without attachments in an enemy unit at the current battlefield. Remove it from the game.

Thanks

No.

Wanyudo's Reaction can only be used from the discard pile (in general), which means it can only be taken by its owner, regardless of who its former was.

A player, 7 March 2011

Regarding this thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=89320

In that case, does the reference to 'another player's action' apply to the original owner (as he is another player compared with the owner of Wannyudo before it enters the discard) or of the ninja owner (the reference to another player being examined only after it reaches the discard)?

Alex Jones (rules official), 7 March 2011

Regarding this thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=89320

In that case, does the reference to 'another player's action' apply to the original owner (as he is another player compared with the owner of Wannyudo before it enters the discard) or of the ninja owner (the reference to another player being examined only after it reaches the discard)?

Like all abilities, the text is read from the point of view of the player taking the action. Thus, "another player's action" means an action taken by any player other than the owner of Wanyudo.