Before a turn ends... (L5R rules board)

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 2 February 2011

Does the phrase "Before a turn ends" encompass the whole players turn from the beginning of the straighten phase to the end phase draw?

I ask because I'd like to know if I can play the card Proper Deference during the action phase if my opponent has gained 8 honor during that phase.

Same question with Claiming the Throne.

Card text:

Title Proper Deference Political Reaction: Before a turn ends, if the active player has gained 8 or more Honor this turn, excluding gains from battle resolution: Set his Family Honor equal to its value when the turn began. Draw a card. Battle: Give a target Personality or Follower -4F.

Title Claiming the Throne Before a player's turn ends this game, if the player, during that turn, destroyed a province in battle resolution, put at least two Rings into play by their own text, and gained 7 or more Honor, he may, as costs, discard the Imperial Favor and pay 10 Gold. If he does so, he wins the game.

If both cards may only be activated after the end phase draw, I assume the active player has the first opportunity to use any of those cards(or claim the throne)?

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 2 February 2011

Does the phrase "Before a turn ends" encompass the whole players turn from the beginning of the straighten phase to the end phase draw?

No. And "After your turn begins" doesn't mean anytime during your turn, either.

"Before" and "after" triggers have an implied "immediately" in front of them.