A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 9 July 2010
Hi,
the situation goes as follows:
1. I attach Armor of the Ryu (+3/+0) to Personality A (he has 6F after that). 2. My opponent targets this personality with an action that causes a Force penalty to it (let's say it's 3F now). 3. I transfer Armor of the Ryu with Border Pass ability to Personality B (base Force of Personality B is 4).
The questions: 1) How is Personality B's Force calculated now? Is it 7, or does the penalty influence the attachment somehow? 2) What is happening with Personality A's Force and how is it calculated?
Many thanks.
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 9 July 2010
1) How is Personality B's Force calculated now? Is it 7, or does the penalty influence the attachment somehow?
If the penalty was applied to the Personality, that's where it stays, regardless of where his attachments may go. Personality B's Force would indeed be 7.
2) What is happening with Personality A's Force and how is it calculated?
Well, I mathed out that Personality A had 3F before attaching the armor. Let's assume that's his base Force. So, you gave him the armor, bringing him to 6F, then your opponent gave him -3F, bringing him to 3F. If you transfer the armor away while the Personality still has the -3F, his current Force would then be 0.
Calculating Stats:
"To get a stat's current value at any given time, do steps A through C, below:
A: Apply all current bonuses and penalties. B: If the total is below 0, treat it as 0, unless the stat is Family Honor, Honor Requirement, or a modifier with a + or – sign such as an Item’s Force and Chi stats. C: If the total is less than a minimum or more than a maximum, treat it as the minimum or maximum."