If i use Only Actions Speak (the battle action) that was performed by Utogu no Oni to target an attachment on Hida Kuon (exp 6) as my first battle action where Kuon is the only defender, will Kuon be bowed by it?
Only Actions Speak vs Hida Kuon (exp 6)
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If i use Only Actions Speak (the battle action) that was performed by Utogu no Oni to target an attachment on Hida Kuon (exp 6) as my first battle action where Kuon is the only defender, will Kuon be bowed by it?
No.
Assuming no other bonuses or penalties, Hida Kuon xp6 is not a legal target for Utogu no Oni via Only Actions Speak.
He must have less force than Utogu no Oni's for Only Actions Speak to be legal to play.
Assuming some sort of force penalty or bonus prior to the action was in effect, Hida Kuon xp6s trait would make all the effects of Only Actions Speak's Battle action fail, if Hida Kuon was the card targeted.
In regards to http://alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=84151
The question was whether the action would bow Hida Kuon if it had originally targeted the scout armor. The scout armor is a legal target (has less force than Utogu no Oni performing the action). Utogu no Oni has the requisite base force, so the action now bows a unit without targeting the unit, it would appear.
Obviously Hida Kuon cannot be targeted by the action, but the attached scout armor being targeted should bow Hida Kuon's unit, correct?
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In regards to http://alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=84151
The question was whether the action would bow Kuon if it had originally targeted the scout armor. The scout armor is a legal target (has less force than Utogu performing the action). Utogu has the requisite base force, so the action now bows a unit without targeting the unit, it would appear.
Obviously Kuon cannot be targeted by the action, but the attached scout armor being targeted should bow Kuon's unit, correct?
Correct, but no mention of Scout armor, or any similar attachment was made in the original question.
Hida Kuon's unit would bow, and his trait would not be triggered.
in response to this
i originally wrote, "If i use Only Actions Speak (the battle action) that was performed by Utogu no Oni to target an attachment on Hida Kuon (exp 6) as my first battle action where Kuon is the only defender, will Kuon be bowed by it?" (emphasis added)
for example i target Heavenly Tetsubo of the Crab Thank you
in response to this
i originally wrote, "If i use Only Actions Speak (the battle action) that was performed by Utogu no Oni to target an attachment on Hida Kuon (exp 6) as my first battle action where Kuon is the only defender, will Kuon be bowed by it?" (emphasis added)
for example i target Heavenly Tetsubo of the Crab Thank you
Right. Can't read, etc.
Hida Kuon's unit would bow, and Hida Kuon's trait would not be triggered.
Hope that helps!