Sensei & Stronghold VS Celestial Edition Rulebook

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 March 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 19 March 2010

Hi,

I have some questions about that : I've seen this ruling about Intelligence Agence and Yodin Sensei : - If you are a Yodin Sensei player, you may target a Personality with the Intelligence Agent, but this does not allow you to target that Personality with other actions, because Intelligence Agent overrides card effects, while Yodin Sensei is considered printed on the stronghold. [VRD, 29 December 2000]

Is that means ? Are all the Sensei Texts considered to be printed on the Stronghold ? If I use Sap the spirit on a stronghold, may the Sensei's abilities be used or not ? If I use Iron Citadel, do I lose all the traits and abilities of my Sensei ?

Now, with the Celestial Edition Rulebook, Stronghold are considered as card. Is the ruling of the 29 December 2000 right ? => Yodin is considered Printed on my Stronghold (Ruling). => My Stronghold is a card (Celestial Edition Rulebook). => Intelligence Agent overide Card Effects. => Do Intelligence Agent overide Stronghold Effects while playing in Legacy ? (I hope so, or I have cheated a few days ago)

Thanks in advance,

Bye.................Rémi.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 19 March 2010

I have some questions about that : I've seen this ruling about Intelligence Agence and Yodin Sensei : - If you are a Yodin Sensei player, you may target a Personality with the Intelligence Agent, but this does not allow you to target that Personality with other actions, because Intelligence Agent overrides card effects, while Yodin Sensei is considered printed on the stronghold. [VRD, 29 December 2000]

That ruling is outdated, as are most linked on L5Rsearch or in the Rules Archive. The Legacy Wiki is the most current and accurate source of such things, in almost all cases. But do consider this the official ruling/reversal: Senseis' text are no longer considered to be on your Stronghold.

And thus, for Intelligence Agent's current interaction with Yodin Sensei, yes it will allow a player of Yodin Sensei using its ability to target another player's Personality.