YOU, but not YOU

L5R CCG Rules board, 12 February 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 12 February 2010

Hello!

According to various sources (examples below), if Isawa Fosuta's ability is used by one player, then this personality changes controller, still the first player decides what is going with Fosuta's ability. In short.

May I ask for some rules link on which this ruling is based? I cannot find anything in comprehend rules that states that control could extend to lingering card actions even after control change. Rules in comprehensive rulings treat (Personality) card as final step in controlling, there's nothing about possible exceptions. An they are very precise about YOU word. Rules about delaying effects? Even some of O-Rulu Team (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80638&p=1054505), while caught unprepared, cited the same rules supporting cause 'current controler controls whole Fosuta'.

Current ruling is based on interpretation : In the effect "While Fosuta remains bowed, you may negate his straightening" (Fosuta's text), 'you' is the player who controlled Fosuta when this effect began. interpretation. Where in rules we can find something that can support that? Thanks!

Isawa Fosuta ruling example : viewtopic.php?f=59&t=79202&p=1037685

Alex Jones (rules official), 12 February 2010

Hello!

According to various sources (examples below), if Isawa Fosuta's ability is used by one player, then this personality changes controller, still the first player decides what is going with Fosuta's ability. In short.

May I ask for some rules link on which this ruling is based? I cannot find anything in comprehend rules that states that control could extend to lingering card actions even after control change. Rules in comprehensive rulings treat (Personality) card as final step in controlling, there's nothing about possible exceptions. An they are very precise about YOU word. Rules about delaying effects? Even some of O-Rulu Team (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80638&p=1054505), while caught unprepared, cited the same rules supporting cause 'current controler controls whole Fosuta'.

Current ruling is based on interpretation : In the effect "While Fosuta remains bowed, you may negate his straightening" (Fosuta's text), 'you' is the player who controlled Fosuta when this effect began. interpretation. Where in rules we can find something that can support that? Thanks!

Isawa Fosuta ruling example : viewtopic.php?f=59&t=79202&p=1037685

Under discussion.

However, although I can't find anything in the current Comprehensive Rules, the ruling on Isawa Fosuta has long precedent, for example His Most Favored: The original player of this card loses the honor when the targeted Personality is destroyed. This may not be the controller of the Personality at that time. [RD, 22 September 1996]