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A player, 7 February 2010
I have a couple example cases that I need some clarification on with this card.
The first is the case of Reinforce the Gates being played when Yoritomo Tatsuhiko performs his action navally. I believe the gold would still be payed because it is in the cost block, but could someone please verify this for me?
The second case is if the target is redirected to another unit using Deflection or Chugo Seido. I believe the player using Yoritomo Tatsuhiko's action would get to decide whether or not to pay the cost of the new target after the redirection occurs because the redirection occurs during the cost block. Is this correct?
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 7 February 2010
The first is the case of Reinforce the Gates being played when Yoritomo Tatsuhiko performs his action navally. I believe the gold would still be payed because it is in the cost block, but could someone please verify this for me?
If you're talking about the Reaction on Reinforce the Gates, yes. (Mod nudge: When an strategy card has multiple actions, please say which action. Thanks!)
The second case is if the target is redirected to another unit using Deflection or Chugo Seido. I believe the player using Yoritomo Tatsuhiko's action would get to decide whether or not to pay the cost of the new target after the redirection occurs because the redirection occurs during the cost block. Is this correct?
Same as Dramatic Assassination: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_FAQ#What_happen ... ld_cost.3F
A player, 7 February 2010
In regards to viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81657#p1067418
Reinforce the Gates reaction says: Reaction: After a player announces a Battle action before the Defender’s first normal opportunity to act or pass: Its effects do not happen.
According to this: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Abilities_and_a ... _abilities
The announce stage is before payment of costs and even targeting. Thus, if a person has already targeted the card he intends to use Tatsuhiko ability to bow or straighten, it is too late to play the reaction on Reinforce the Gates.
Has something changed?
EDIT: Even if you still must perform required targeting, Yoritomo Tatsuhiko's ability has the text "You may pay Gold equal". Since paying the gold cost is optional, wouldn't you target, choose not pay gold, and then the effects "straighten the unit", would not happen?
Dan Jacobson (rules official), 7 February 2010
In regards to viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81657#p1067418
Reinforce the Gates reaction says: Reaction: After a player announces a Battle action before the Defender’s first normal opportunity to act or pass: Its effects do not happen.
According to this: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Abilities_and_a ... _abilities
The announce stage is before payment of costs and even targeting. Thus, if a person has already targeted the card he intends to use Tatsuhiko ability to bow or straighten, it is too late to play the reaction on Reinforce the Gates.
Has something changed?
EDIT: Even if you still must perform required targeting, Yoritomo Tatsuhiko's ability has the text "You may pay Gold equal". Since paying the gold cost is optional, wouldn't you target, choose not pay gold, and then the effects "straighten the unit", would not happen?
I am presuming the correct timing.
After Yoritomo Tatsuhiko's action is announced, the defender plays Reinforce the Gates.
It is a perfectly legal choice to target a personality and pay no gold cost to have them straighten. This effect would not happen via the effect of Reinforce the Gates.