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A player, 1 February 2010
I really don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but I'm genuinely confused about something, concerning the ruling here.
Am I wrong in thinking that personality destruction caused from having 0 Chi is a rulebook effect? That question in mind, why does Strength of the Bamboo negate the destruction of a personality targeted by Fosuta's action when the destruction is caused by a rulebook effect and not by the action itself?
Strength of the Bamboo Heroic Reaction: After an action targets your Hero Perosnality: Negate his destruction from the action's effects. Give him +1F.
Furthermore, using the previous ruling, if a person plays a Strength of the Bamboo in reaction to Fosuta's action bringing a target to 0 chi, does that mean the personality gets to stay alive for that whole turn with a chi value of 0 (considering SotB stops the destruction but not the token?) And if so, why does this trump the rulebook effect of destruction for having 0 chi? (Edit: Specifically, in regards to this last question, this rule on instantaneous effects and chi death.)
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 1 February 2010
Am I wrong in thinking that personality destruction caused from having 0 Chi is a rulebook effect?
Half wrong.
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Effects#Source_of_effects: "A Personality’s destruction for having 0 Chi (Chi death rule) comes from the cost or effect that last gave the Personality a Chi penalty, or from the rulebook if there was no such effect." (Emphasis added.)
You have to look at the source of the effect on a case by case basis.
A player, 11 December 2010
In regards to this: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81550&p=1066191&hilit=+Strength+the+Bamboo#p1066191
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Effects#Source_of_effects: "A Personality’s destruction for having 0 Chi (Chi death rule) comes from the cost or effect that last gave the Personality a Chi penalty, or from the rulebook if there was no such effect." (Emphasis added.)
Can some context be provided for this rule? As I understand it, personalities do not exist that start with a chi of 0, and nothing I can think of will alter a personality's chi without being part of either somethings cost or effect. Under what circumstances would the emphasized part of the above ruling, then, ever occur?
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 11 December 2010
In regards to this: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81550&p=1066191&hilit=+Strength+the+Bamboo#p1066191
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Effects#Source_of_effects: "A Personality’s destruction for having 0 Chi (Chi death rule) comes from the cost or effect that last gave the Personality a Chi penalty, or from the rulebook if there was no such effect." (Emphasis added.)
Can some context be provided for this rule? As I understand it, personalities do not exist that start with a chi of 0, and nothing I can think of will alter a personality's chi without being part of either somethings cost or effect. Under what circumstances would the emphasized part of the above ruling, then, ever occur?
Example (found by searching "chi death rulebook" under the advanced search):
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81053