I want to be clear on the term "thunder action" on the stronghold. Does it mean that an action on a card with the keyword "thunder" on it? Or could it be a personality with the "thunder" keyword performing an action (ex: Moshi Kamiya performing a range attack with an oni daikyu attached). Thank you.
Thunder Dragon Bay
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Does ("thunder action") mean that an action on a card with the keyword "thunder" on it? Or could it be a personality with the "thunder" keyword performing an action(?)
They are effectively the same thing.
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_features#Abilities: "An ability has any boldface keywords that appear immediately before its designator. Example: “Ninja Battle:” In this case, the ability is a Ninja ability.
"A card has any keywords of its abilities. Example: A card with the ability “Ninja Battle:” has the Ninja keyword.
"An ability also has any keywords that are on its card. Example: An ability on a Ninja card is a Ninja ability."
I apologize for the redundent question but Zen I am afraid that the previous threads explination was about as clear as mud to me.
On Thunder Dragon Bay ability
After the resolution to one of your Thunder actions: Give your target personality +1F
Is the "Once per turn" non printed but understood phrase in play here?
How long does this bonus last?
If a Thunder Action is an action from a card that has the "Thunder" keyword on it. Does a personality who has the "Thunder" keyword perform a normal action or an action from an attachment that does not have the "Thunder" keyword also considered a Thunder Action?
Thank you
I apologize for the redundent question but Zen I am afraid that the previous threads explination was about as clear as mud to me.
On Thunder Dragon Bay ability
After the resolution to one of your Thunder actions: Give your target personality +1F
Is the "Once per turn" non printed but understood phrase in play here?
How long does this bonus last?
If a Thunder Action is an action from a card that has the "Thunder" keyword on it. Does a personality who has the "Thunder" keyword perform a normal action or an action from an attachment that does not have the "Thunder" keyword also considered a Thunder Action?
Thank you
Abilities can only be used once per turn, but conditional traits resolve any time their trigger is met. See Abilities and actions and Card features, Abilities: An ability is a block of text that creates an action. Abilities are written in a mixture of boldface and normal text, and include one or more of the boldface designators “Limited:” “Open:” “Battle:” or “Reaction:” that indicate at what point the action can be taken. Abilities are never required; in particular, Reactions never happen automatically. They must be specifically activated by a player.
The trait does not specify a duration, so the default applies: the bonus lasts until the end of the turn. See Ongoing effects: Ongoing effects last until the end of the turn in which they were applied unless otherwise indicated.
An action has the keywords from the card it is on, which is not necessarily the Personality performing the action. In particular if a Thunder Personality performs the action on an attached Oni-Daikyu, the action is not a Thunder action. See Abilities: An ability has any boldface keywords that appear immediately before its designator. A card has any keywords of its abilities. An ability also has any keywords that are on its card. EXCEPTION: Keywords that a card only has from one of its abilities are not given to other abilities on the card. Note that keywords on a Personality do not affect abilities on attachments.
Thanks to Alex for picking up after me; I missed that an attachment was used as an example of the original question.
As a follow up to this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81362#p1064512
I didn't see anything about this mentioned in the post and wanted to clarify. A personality performing an action on their attachment doesn't lend the action the keyword, what about a personality performing a rulebook effect? Like a ninja (Yogo Rieko for example) bowing for the favor. Does bowing for the favor then become a Ninja action? Thanks.
what about a personality performing a rulebook effect?
Aside: only actions are performed, not effects (see Perform in the glossary). Below I assume your question deals with actions from the player abilities granted by the rulebook.
The rules about keywords of abilities and actions apply to both those player abilities and abilities on cards. However since player abilities are not on a card, they never inherit any keywords thanks to these rules: each of them only has any boldface keywords that appear immediately before its designator (if any).
As a consequence, if Yogo Rieko lobbies, she is not performing a Ninja action, only a Political action.