force penalties

L5R CCG Rules board, 27 November 2009 to 1 December 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 27 November 2009

can you give a force penalty to an item? and would that item then give it's penalty to the personality it is attached to? such as unstoppable power to armor of the heavens so as not to target the personality and lose honor.

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Zen Faulkes (rules official), 27 November 2009

can you give a force penalty to an item? and would that item then give it's penalty to the personality it is attached to? such as unstoppable power to armor of the heavens so as not to target the personality and lose honor.

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Is there is a specific card that this pertains to? We rules guys get nervous about hypothetical questions.

A player, 1 December 2009

this is about viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80324

i haven't gotten a response since friday. if i have just Isawa Kumai at the battle field and use unstoppable power on armor of the heavens, do i a) gain two honor and the personality that has armor of the heavens loses two force b) gain two honor and the personality loses no force, or c) gain no honor and the personality loses no force

thank you in advance

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 1 December 2009

if i have just Isawa Kumai at the battle field and use unstoppable power on armor of the heavens, do i a) gain two honor and the personality that has armor of the heavens loses two force b) gain two honor and the personality loses no force, or c) gain no honor and the personality loses no force

http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_types#Items: "Force and Chi bonuses or penalties to an Item affect the modifier(.)"

Which makes that Option A.