Master the Body vs. Hida Hachimoto

L5R CCG Rules board, 9 September 2009

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A player, 9 September 2009

A non duelist with 4 Chi challenges Hida Hachimoto to a duel using Master the Body. What happens?

In a similar vein, what if said 4 Chi monk/shugenja also had Duelist?

Thanks in advance.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 9 September 2009

A non duelist with 4 Chi challenges Hida Hachimoto to a duel using Master the Body. What happens?

Master the Body compares the Personalties' Chi specifically. Comparing the performer's 4 Chi to Hachimoto's 3 Chi will not give the performer the first opportunity to focus.

Keep in mind, the above is a separate effect from any other aspect to the duel, so it doesn't undermine Hachimoto's trait at all; he'd still have a 6 duel stat for it. Poor 4 Chi performer! Hida smash!

In a similar vein, what if said 4 Chi monk/shugenja also had Duelist?

Now, the "Duelist" keyword DOES compare the actual "duel stat" (rather than "Chi", like Master the Body); see here.

So, Hachimoto's 6 duel stat (due to his trait) versus the hypothetical performer's 4 Chi WOULD allow the Monk/Shugenja Duelist to focus first via having "Duelist".