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A player, 16 July 2009
I am confused about the interaction between a personality who has the ongoing effects of a successful The Last One (I realize successful is probably not the right word here, but they killed 4 personalities and gained all the benefits, I apologize for the lack of technical terminology) and Daigotsu Experienced 3.
Does gaining control of a personality involve movement and therefore the control handover is negated? Does the Daigotsu Experienced 3 player gain control of him but the Last One'd personality fails to join Daigotsu's? Does change of control happen but then the personality is destroyed? Perhaps he changes sides and the Last One'd is not destroyed?
Paul Ashman
Text follows. Daigotsu Experienced 3 Battle: Permanently give a target enemy personality with lower Chi Shadowlands. He succumbs to the Dark Lord's will. Take control of him (if you do so, he joins your army). If you now control him, destroy him after this battle ends.
The Last One Open: Target your Personality: Destroy all of your other Personalities. If this destroyed at least four Personalities, permanently give your targeted Personality +4F, and until the end of the game, negate effects of other player's actions that bow, dishonor, move, or destroy him.
A player, 16 July 2009
Does gaining control of a personality involve movement and therefore the control handover is negated? Does the Daigotsu Experienced 3 player gain control of him but the Last One'd personality fails to join Daigotsu's?
No. When the targeted enemy Personality succumbs to the Dark Lord's will and joins Daigotsu (Experienced 3)'s army, he is not moving into this army (see below, emphasis mine) so The Last One does not negate this effect.
Physically marked card states, Control: When a card changes control, it goes to its new controller’s home. This is not considered movement. EXCEPTION: A Personality who changes control while in an army joins his new controller’s side instead of his home.
Does change of control happen but then the personality is destroyed? Perhaps he changes sides and the Last One'd is not destroyed?
The targeted enemy Personality becomes controlled by Daigotsu's controller and joins his army. After this battle ends, Daigotsu's action's last effect would destroy him but this destruction is negated by The Last One because it comes from another player's action. In the text of The Last One, "other player" is to be read from the perspective of the player who took this Strategy's Open action, not from the perspective of its performing Personality's controller.
A player, 16 July 2009
I was under the impression that Last One negated all of the actions effects that would otherwise bow, dishonor, move, or destroy him. Since destroying the personality is an effect of Daigotsu, wouldn't the taking control of him be negated as well? Or does Last One only negate the specific effect of bow, dishonor, move, and destroy?
A player, 17 July 2009
The Last One reads: Open: Target your Personality: Destroy all of your other Personalities. If this destroyed at least four Personalities, permanently give your targeted Personality +4F, and until the end of the game, negate effects of other player's actions that bow, dishonor, move, or destroy him.
The part "that bow, dishonor, move, or destroy him" refers to "effects" of other player's actions, not to "other player's actions". The Last One specifically negates such effects from these actions but it does not negate all effects of actions with any one such effect.
A player, 17 July 2009
If Daigotsu xp3 gets a personality targeted The Last One to succumb to his will, do they die at the end of the turn still? Or does the "other players" now refer to the owner of the personality since they are no longer the controller?