Daidoji Inada and refilling face-up

L5R CCG Rules board, 12 July 2009

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A player, 12 July 2009

Crane Clan • Samurai • Scout After Inada turns face-up in a province: Dishonor him. Battle: Bow a target enemy card without attachments. Destroy it if Inada is honorable.

Many effects include refilling provinces face-up (ie Border Keep, Famous Bazaar... among others), but when do the cards refilled in this manner turn face-up? Are they already face-up when they are laid on the province (therefore, Inada's trait wouldn't trigger), or is the province refilled, then the card turns face-up (and then Inada is dishonored)?

Thank you in advance.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 12 July 2009

Many effects include refilling provinces face-up (ie Border Keep, Famous Bazaar... among others), but when do the cards refilled in this manner turn face-up? Are they already face-up when they are laid on the province (therefore, Inada's trait wouldn't trigger), or is the province refilled, then the card turns face-up (and then Inada is dishonored)?

Daidoji Inada's trigger WILL occur when a province is "refilled face-up" with him.

When a card "refills a province face-up", its entering the province and turning face-up are simultaneous. This is effectively the same as turning face-up while already having been in the province previously.