Utaku Kohana xp + terrains

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 June 2009

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A player, 17 June 2009

hi, sorry if this seems like a dumb question

Kohana has this trait: After an action resolves which gave a Force penalty to any enemy cards at the current battlefield, if Kohana is there: Gain 1 Honor.

Doomed Undertaking: Battle: Non-Shadowlands Personalities have -2F/-1C while at this battlefield. (similar to the new card that i know your not taking questions on yet Fields of Battle)

does this class as force penalty in the battlefield? if so do i get the honor straight away? also slightly weirder... if someone leaves and comes back the force penalty is re-applied, so do i gain another honor?

thanks for you time.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 17 June 2009

hi, sorry if this seems like a dumb question

Kohana has this trait: After an action resolves which gave a Force penalty to any enemy cards at the current battlefield, if Kohana is there: Gain 1 Honor.

Doomed Undertaking: Battle: Non-Shadowlands Personalities have -2F/-1C while at this battlefield. (similar to the new card that i know your not taking questions on yet Fields of Battle)

does this class as force penalty in the battlefield? if so do i get the honor straight away? also slightly weirder... if someone leaves and comes back the force penalty is re-applied, so do i gain another honor?

thanks for you time.

Kohana's ability triggers "after [the] action resolves".

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_R#Resolve: "An action... stops resolving when its sequence of effect activation has ended, even if the application of some effects has been delayed."

So, once you've played it and all its effects activate, it finishes resolving. Kohana's trigger also checks to see if the action "gave a Force penalty to any enemy cards at the current battlefield" and does so AT THAT TIME. So, after you play the Terrain, if any cards recieved its penalty at that time, Kohana's trait triggers and gives you Honor.

Cards entering the battlefield later than "after [the] action resolves" won't matter.