Ring of the Phoenix and delayed battle destruction

L5R CCG Rules board, 25 February 2009 to 26 February 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 25 February 2009

Hey Everyone, If I have any given Phoenix personality unopposed in a battle and I take the following actions: 1. I target him with Gaining Momentum 2. I target him with Gaining Momentum 3. I target him with Wedge. After the battle ends (assuming he was never opposed), may I play the Ring of the Phoenix as a reaction?

Ring of the Phoenix: After the third or later time in one turn you resolve an action that destroyed any of your Phoenix Clan Personalities during a battle: You may put this card into play from your hand.

Gaining Momentum: Battle: Give one of your target Personalities +2F. Bow all cards with zero Gold Cost at this battlefield. If your Personality is not opposed when this battle's resolution begins, destroy him after the battle ends.

Wedge: Battle: Target one of your Personalities. You can not target cards in his unit with actions until after this battle ends. After this battle’s Resolution Segment begins, double his Force and the Force of each Follower in his unit. Destroy him after the battle ends.

A player, 26 February 2009

After the battle ends (assuming he was never opposed), may I play the Ring of the Phoenix as a reaction?

No. Firstly the Ring of the Phoenix may enter play thanks to its trait, not "as a Reaction". Secondly to use this trait, you must have just resolved an action that destroyed any of your Phoenix Clan Personalities during a battle, and you must do it three or more times during the same turn. Unfortunately the Battle actions from Gaining Momentum and Wedge destroy their target a long time after their resolution, so they never count towards the trait on Ring of the Phoenix. At last even if such actions counted, only one of them would have destroyed your Personality; the two other actions would have failed to destroy her once she was dead (see Glossary, Destroy).