Imperial Couriers + End of Turn

L5R CCG Rules board, 6 December 2008

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A player, 6 December 2008

Imperial Couriers has the ability:

Limited: After your next End Phase ends, if this card is in play, return it to your hand.

Assuming I have 7 cards in my hand after playing this card. I got to my dynasty phase and to my end phase where I draw my 8th card.

Will this return to my hand before the point where I have to discard down to 8 cards, or will it be past the discard step when this is returned to my hand, enabling me, effectively, to finish my turn with 9 cards in hand?

Thanks in advance.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 6 December 2008

Assuming I have 7 cards in my hand after playing (Imperial Couriers). I got to my dynasty phase and to my end phase where I draw my 8th card. Will this return to my hand before the point where I have to discard down to 8 cards, or will it be past the discard step when this is returned to my hand, enabling me, effectively, to finish my turn with 9 cards in hand?

http://rules.l5r.com/Sequence_of_play#End_Phase:

"A. Draw a card.

"B. Discard to maximum hand size."

Since Imperial Couriers is an "after" effect, then:

C. Effect of Imperial Couriers.