Bayushi Paneki xp4 vs Hired Killer

L5R CCG Rules board, 30 October 2008

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A player, 30 October 2008

If one player wants to kill another player's Bayushi Paneki xp4 with Hired Killer, does Paneki's trait trigger?

Does he lose 3 Honor from Hired Killer or 4 (Hired Killer + Paneki's trait)?

Alex Jones (rules official), 30 October 2008

If one player wants to kill another player's Bayushi Paneki xp4 with Hired Killer, does Paneki's trait trigger?

Does he lose 3 Honor from Hired Killer or 4 (Hired Killer + Paneki's trait)?

Bayushi Paneki exp4: After another player’s action resolves that targeted one or more Personalities at Paneki’s location: The player loses 1 Honor.

After Hired Killer resolves, Paneki is in the discard pile and out of play, so his trait does not trigger. See Implications of in and out of play: Cards that are not in play or in a resolution, entering-play or focusing area have the following limitations: Abilities on them cannot be used, and triggered traits on them are not triggered.