Temple of the Righteous Emperor vs. The Maws Grave

L5R CCG Rules board, 22 August 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 22 August 2008

If I am a Maws Grave player and I have a Temple of the Righteous Emperor in play. Can I play an action card that has an honor gain on it, use the temple and draw a card. The temple says :

Reaction: Before a player gains Honor from an Action card during the Attack Phase: Negate the Honor gain. The player draws a card.

Since the word 'before' is there, I would say that I can, even though my stronghold will not allow me to gain the honor when it actually happens.

Alex Jones (rules official), 22 August 2008

If I am a Maws Grave player and I have a Temple of the Righteous Emperor in play. Can I play an action card that has an honor gain on it, use the temple and draw a card. The temple says :

Reaction: Before a player gains Honor from an Action card during the Attack Phase: Negate the Honor gain. The player draws a card.

Since the word 'before' is there, I would say that I can, even though my stronghold will not allow me to gain the honor when it actually happens.

"Do not" does not mean that the honour gain is negated, but that it never exists. There is no honour gain to react to.

See Do not.