A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 4 August 2008
Okay. The card reads "...bow any cards without attachments"
There are currently 2 schools of players in my shop now.
The first school are supporters of RAW. They think the card can bow attachments since attachments are "cards without attachments" by the letter of rules.
The second school are supporters of card logic. They think the card effects fizzles and can not bow attachments since attachments can never legally have attachments in the first place so they won't fit in the targeting requirement of "cards without attachments".
Which school is correct? (an official ruling will be most helpful on this one)
Cheers,
A player, 5 August 2008
Shuten Doji’s Fury reads: Battle: Dishonor one of your target unbowed Personalities: Lose 3 Honor. Bow one or more target cards opposing him without attachments, up to his base Personal Honor.
Glossary, Attach: "A Personality card is not considered attached to its attachment card. Thus, Followers, Items, Spells, and so on are always considered 'cards without attachments.'" (emphasis mine)
Shuten Doji's Fury's action can target and bow any attachment cards opposing the performing Personality. See also "Dissent and Draw Your Blade Question".
Aside: "fizzle" is not a game term.
Alex Jones (rules official), 5 August 2008
Okay. The card reads "...bow any cards without attachments"
There are currently 2 schools of players in my shop now.
The first school are supporters of RAW. They think the card can bow attachments since attachments are "cards without attachments" by the letter of rules.
The second school are supporters of card logic. They think the card effects fizzles and can not bow attachments since attachments can never legally have attachments in the first place so they won't fit in the targeting requirement of "cards without attachments".
Which school is correct? (an official ruling will be most helpful on this one)
Cheers,
The only card type that can have attachments is "Personality". If Shuten Doji's Fury was meant only to target Personalities, it would say "Personalities without attachments." It doesn't: it says "cards without attachments."