Fortified Cavalry vs. Unit Destruction

L5R CCG Rules board, 18 July 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 18 July 2008

I use Consumed by Five Fires to try to destroy a unit led by Moto Chagatai with Fortified Cavalry attached; my opponent is left with which of the following:

a) Chagatai and 4 force follower, created by Fortified Cavalry b) Chagatai c) nothing

Alex Jones (rules official), 18 July 2008

I use Consumed by Five Fires to try to destroy a unit led by Moto Chagatai with Fortified Cavalry attached; my opponent is left with which of the following:

a) Chagatai and 4 force follower, created by Fortified Cavalry b) Chagatai c) nothing

Just Chagatai.

To quote MacBeth2001 when this question was discussed by the Rules Junta: 1. [Consumed by Five Fires'] action is taken; its effects will destroy all cards in the unit simultaneously. 2. Before that occurs, Fortified Cavalry's trait kicks in, negating the Personality's destruction, and creating and attaching the new Follower. 3. Now, the unit destruction occurs, except for the Personality's part of it, which was negated. But this destruction does include the new Follower, as it's now part of the unit.