Desperate Wager vs Winter Storm

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 June 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 19 June 2008

Desperate Wager Reaction: Before your Dynasty Phase begins: Straighten all your Personalities. Declare an additional Attack Phase. After its Declaration Segment, straighten all the Defender’s Personalities and Followers; this straightening can not be negated. You lose the game at the end of this turn.

Winter Storm Until the end of the game, after each time an attack is declared, each player targets two of his unbowed Personalities with a Gold Cost eqal to or less than his Stronghold's Gold Production plus 2. Bow them.

Question: I am the active player. Winter storm is in effect. My opponent has 2 random spud GC = Stronghold's Gold plus 2 I play desperate wager

What happens A. Desperate Wager creates new attack phase. Desperate Wager straightens defenders. Winter Storm bows two Boxable spuds. B. Desperate Wager creates new attack phase. Winter Storm bows two Boxable spuds. Desperate Wager straightens defenders.

Many thanks

Alex Jones (rules official), 19 June 2008

Desperate Wager Reaction: Before your Dynasty Phase begins: Straighten all your Personalities. Declare an additional Attack Phase. After its Declaration Segment, straighten all the Defender’s Personalities and Followers; this straightening can not be negated. You lose the game at the end of this turn.

Winter Storm Until the end of the game, after each time an attack is declared, each player targets two of his unbowed Personalities with a Gold Cost eqal to or less than his Stronghold's Gold Production plus 2. Bow them.

Question: I am the active player. Winter storm is in effect. My opponent has 2 random spud GC = Stronghold's Gold plus 2 I play desperate wager

What happens A. Desperate Wager creates new attack phase. Desperate Wager straightens defenders. Winter Storm bows two Boxable spuds. B. Desperate Wager creates new attack phase. Winter Storm bows two Boxable spuds. Desperate Wager straightens defenders.

Many thanks

Declaration Segment: A. Declare an attack. The player creating this Attack Phase declares an attack. B. Create Battlefields. C. Invite Allies.

Winter Storm triggers after step A of the Declaration Segment. Desperate Wager straightens the Defender's Personalities and Followers after the end of the entire Declaration Segment. So Winter Storm bows, and, later, Desperate Wager straightens.