Kyuden Kitsune

L5R CCG Rules board, 27 April 2008 to 28 April 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 27 April 2008

Hi,

I have seen that The Mantis Clan and The Yoritomo's Alliance have the same meaning for the Legacy Format. If I use the Kyuden Kitsune, may the Yoritomo's Alliance Personalities enter play under my control?

May I use the Mantis Clan sensei for the Yoritomo's Alliance Stronghold? For example, may I use the Orochi Sensei with the Stronghold call Kyuden Yoritomo.

The Cards : Kyuden Kitsune : Title Kyuden Kitsune Rarity Fixed, Uncommon Edition Fire and Shadow [ View Printings ] Clan Yoritomo's Alliance Text Fox cards cost 2 less Gold for you. Mantis Personalities will not join you. Other Yoritomo's Alliance Personalities will join you and are part of your Clan. Your Shugenja Personalities each have +1C. When you're the Defender, you decide the order in which battles resolve.

Kyuden Yoritomo : Type Stronghold Title Kyuden Yoritomo Rarity Fixed, Promotional Edition Hidden Emperor 5 [ View Printings ] Clan Yoritomo's Alliance Text This stronghold counts as a port, but is not affected by cards that affect ports.

Orochi Sensei : Title Orochi Sensei Rarity Fixed Edition Lotus [ View Printings ] Clan Mantis Text Mantis Clan Sensei Human Naval Personalities you own without the printed Storm Rider trait have –1F and the Storm Rider trait. Limited: Pay 3 Gold, and target and remove from the game a Storm Rider Personality in your discard pile: Target an Orochi. Attach a Naval Storm Rider Follower token to it with the same printed Force and printed abilities as the removed Personality.

Thanks in advance,

Thank to all players who have come to play in Lyon during the Kotei.

Rémi.

[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 27 April 2008

If I use the Kyuden Kitsune, may the Yoritomo's Alliance Personalities enter play under my control?

Yes. (Who else would they join?)

May I use the Mantis Clan sensei for the Yoritomo's Alliance Stronghold?

Yes.

Roger Giner-Sorolla (rules official), 28 April 2008

This is based on the part in the Legacy rules stating:

p. 21, keywords [...]

NOTE: Cards that make an explicit distinction between two keywords above (The Daini, Kyuden Kitsune, Mantis House Guard) take precedence over the above rules. A personality with "Yoritomo's Alliance" is not considered to have "Mantis Clan" for the purpose of determining whether the personality will join a Kyuden Kitsune player, unless the personality has the actual "Mantis Clan" keyword on the card.