naval and sneak attack

L5R CCG Rules board, 14 March 2008

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A player, 14 March 2008

hi just a question about something that came up the other day i have isawa mizuhiko with the naval trait, consumed by 5 fires, and a brillant rebirth temple follower

Naval Ability Reaction: If you are the Attacker and your current army has more Naval cards than the opposing army, once per battle after engaging: You have the first opportunity to take a Battle action, which must be performed by a target Naval Personality or one of his Naval Followers. In cases where multiple cards perform a Battle action, only one need be Naval.

i have sneak attack and peasant vengenance in my hand

Text Reaction: After engaging in a battle: The Attacker has the first opportunity to take a Battle action or pass during this battle. Play then proceeds in turn order from him

can i use naval to use the consumed by 5 fires to kill one of my opponents units, and then sneak attack to use peasant vengenance to kill another one before he gets an action? or can i use sneak attack to peasant vengenance a unit, then use naval to consumed by 5 fires another one?

i tried looking this up but could only find something from back around lotus and i know naval changed some so was wondering if either of these 2 scenarios is legal

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 14 March 2008

hi just a question about something that came up the other day i have isawa mizuhiko with the naval trait, consumed by 5 fires, and a brillant rebirth temple follower

Naval Ability Reaction: If you are the Attacker and your current army has more Naval cards than the opposing army, once per battle after engaging: You have the first opportunity to take a Battle action, which must be performed by a target Naval Personality or one of his Naval Followers. In cases where multiple cards perform a Battle action, only one need be Naval.

i have sneak attack and peasant vengenance in my hand

Text Reaction: After engaging in a battle: The Attacker has the first opportunity to take a Battle action or pass during this battle. Play then proceeds in turn order from him

can i use naval to use the consumed by 5 fires to kill one of my opponents units, and then sneak attack to use peasant vengenance to kill another one before he gets an action? or can i use sneak attack to peasant vengenance a unit, then use naval to consumed by 5 fires another one?

i tried looking this up but could only find something from back around lotus and i know naval changed some so was wondering if either of these 2 scenarios is legal

http://rules.l5r.com/Battles#Combat_Segment

"Multiple effects that change who gets the first opportunity to act do not stack; if the attacker gets the first opportunity to act from two separate effects he can not thereby take two Battle actions before the Defender."