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A player, 12 March 2008
If I am playing The Hall of Ancestors (Lion clan Stronghold) and play Arranged Marriage on Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) he becomes Lion clan, correct?
If I have Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko) in play and during a battle my opponent attempts to kill Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) and I react with Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko) to negate the destruction, does Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) still gain the +1f from my opponent taking an action to kill Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)? Or is Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) considered out of play before Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko) reacts to save Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) and allow Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) to gain the force bonus?
If Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) is destroyed after having been targeted by Arranged Marriage, may I use the ability on The Hall of Ancestors to copy Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s Battle ability to Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko)? Or is Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) no longer considered Lion clan once destroyed, therefor not allowing me to copy Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s Battle ability to Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko)?
If Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) is destroyed after having been targeted by Arranged Marriage, may I use the ability on The Hall of Ancestors to copy Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s "Dragon Clan" keyword to Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko)? Or is Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) no longer considered Lion clan once destroyed, therefor not allowing me to copy Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s "Dragon Clan" keyword to Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko)?
If Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko) moves Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) into a battlefield and my opponent uses Bayushi Tsimaru (Experienced) to negate the movement, is Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) considered opposed so as to gain the +1f from his ability? Or is the negation of movement from Bayushi Tsimaru (Experienced) stopping Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) from being opposed for his trait to fire off?
Finally, if Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) has a 1f bonus (say from a weapon of some sort or whatever) and is targeted by Daigotsu Rekai (Experienced 4 Daidoji Rekai)'s ranged 5 attack, does Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s trait kick in making Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige)'s force 6 and nor longer a valid target for Daigotsu Rekai (Experienced 4 Daidoji Rekai)'s ranged attack.
Thanks.
A player, 12 March 2008
If I am playing The Hall of Ancestors (Lion clan Stronghold) and play Arranged Marriage on Togashi Ieshige (Experienced Akodo Ieshige) he becomes Lion clan, correct?
Correct.
If I have Ikoma Yasuko (Experienced Shosuro Yasuko) in play and during a battle my opponent attempts to kill Togashi Ieshige and I react with Ikoma Yasuko to negate the destruction, does Togashi Ieshige still gain the +1f from my opponent taking an action?
As long as your opponent controls a unit opposing Ieshige at the current battlefield, Ieshige gains +1F before each time he resolves the effects of an action. In the usual case when your opponent's killing attempt comes from the effects of an action and your Ieshige is opposing any of his units at the current battlefield, then he gains +1F regardless of Ikoma Yasuko. The only rare situation I can think of, when your opponent may attempt to kill Togashi Ieshige during a battle without having him gain Force, uses Silent Movements: if Ieshige is at a battlefield which is not the current one, your opponent may play Silent Movements to move his ninja at the current battlefield to Ieshige's battlefield, then he may use his three Shosuro Kyuichi to kill Ieshige. Unlikely indeed.
If Togashi Ieshige is destroyed after having been targeted by Arranged Marriage, may I use the ability on The Hall of Ancestors to copy Togashi Ieshige's Battle ability [or his "Dragon Clan" keyword] to Ikoma Yasuko?
Yes. Ieshige has permanently gained Lion Clan and this ongoing effect still persists while he is dead, therefore the ability on The Hall of Ancestors can target him. Effects in and out of play: "Ongoing effects that affect a card in play persist when the card leaves play, unless something else intervenes." Even after his Arranged Marriage, Ieshige is still Dragon Clan so yes you may as well copy this keyword onto Yasuko or anyone of your Personalities.
If Ikoma Yasuko moves Togashi Ieshige into a battlefield and my opponent uses Bayushi Tsimaru (Experienced) to negate the movement, is Togashi Ieshige considered opposed so as to gain the +1f from his ability?
Yasuko's Battle ability reads: Even if Yasuko is home: Target a Personality not at the current battlefield. Move him there. If you do not control him, straighten him. Tsimaru's Reaction reads: Twice per turn, before a unit moves: Negate the movement. (emphasis added twice) If you try to use Yasuko's Battle ability in order to move Ieshige into a battlefield, then he is not at the current battlefield before he moves (Yasuko's text). If your opponent uses Tsimaru's Reaction to negate this movement, he also does so before Ieshige moves (Tsimaru's text). As a consequence, during the resolution of Yasuko's action, Ieshige is never opposing a unit at the current battlefield (Ieshige's text) so his trait never triggers. No.
if Togashi Ieshige has a 1f bonus and is targeted by Daigotsu Rekai's ranged 5 attack, does Togashi Ieshige's trait kick in making Togashi Ieshige's force 6 and nor longer a valid target for Daigotsu Rekai's ranged attack[?]
Ieshige's trait triggers before the effects of Rekai's action resolve, raising his Force to 6. This does not make him an illegal target for this action, since Ranged Attacks can target any Follower or any Personality without Followers in the current enemy army regardless of Force (see Glossary, Ranged Attack), but this does prevent him from being detroyed by this Ranged Attack.