Misdirection, Multiple Targets, Reinforce, Paneki XP4

L5R CCG Rules board, 25 February 2008 to 28 February 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 25 February 2008

Im attacking a province with a 19 gold cost unit and defending me are Bayushi Paneki XP4 and a Shosuro Uyeda. If I use a Standing Fast as a Naval action and it gets reinforced, what targeting am I required to make in order to lose the least amount of honor(from Paneki's trait)? Can I just target my personality because of the up to 2 targets stated on Standing Fast?

If I use the Standing Fast and the other player uses Misdirection, can he choose no targets because Standing Fast states "up to 2 targets"?

How does Misdirection interact with Ordered Retreat? If I have 4 units in the battle and I play Ordered Retreat, then the other player plays Misdirection, does the opponent get to choose to send 1-4 of my units home and what 1-4 units straighten?

Doruk Özaydın (rules official), 28 February 2008

Im attacking a province with a 19 gold cost unit and defending me are Bayushi Paneki XP4 and a Shosuro Uyeda. If I use a Standing Fast as a Naval action and it gets reinforced, what targeting am I required to make in order to lose the least amount of honor(from Paneki's trait)? Can I just target my personality because of the up to 2 targets stated on Standing Fast?

Yes, you may choose to target no opposing units as you "Target up to two units opposing him.." and none is a choice.

If I use the Standing Fast and the other player uses Misdirection, can he choose no targets because Standing Fast states "up to 2 targets"?

Yes, per Misdirection's wording: "Political Gozoku Reaction: Before another player would choose targets for one of his action’s effects during a battle, target one of your Courtier or Gozoku Personalities: You choose the targets instead."

The opponent makes all your targeting choices and he can choose 0 targets. See Chris Fuchs's previous ruling on this.

How does Misdirection interact with Ordered Retreat? If I have 4 units in the battle and I play Ordered Retreat, then the other player plays Misdirection, does the opponent get to choose to send 1-4 of my units home and what 1-4 units straighten?

The opponent would choose how many personalities to move home, but you would choose which units to straighten as the straightening is not a targeting so Misdirection does not affect it.

Ordered Retreat's wording: "Battle: Move home one or more target Personalities in your army. You may straighten a number of your units up to the number of Personalities you moved home."