Saya fun again.

L5R CCG Rules board, 12 February 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 12 February 2008

I have a quick question in regards to preforming an action. I had a case where someone stated that rulebook actions were treated differently than normal actions, in that the player preforms them rather than their personality.

Does this mean that during the following play course that A or B happens?

A 1) Activate Bayushi Saya targeting Diagotsu. The next time Diagotsu resolves an action, or assigns he will cause an honor loss equal to his personal honor, then dishonor. 2) Diagotsu shares a blade of hubris using the Rulebook effect of sharing;

Open: Bow one of your attachments: Transfer it to another legal target it could attach to.

3) Diagotsu resolves the share effect. 4) Bayushi Saya triggers, as Diagotsu's Blade of Hubris is preforming the action, and therefor Diagotsu is preforming the action per the rules of performing. Diagotsu causes an honor loss equal to his personal honor, then dishonors.

B 1) Activate Bayushi Saya targeting Diagotsu. The next time Diagotsu resolves an action, or assigns he will cause an honor loss equal to his personal honor, then dishonor. 2) Diagotsu shares a Blade of Hubris using the Rulebook effect of sharing;

Open: Bow one of your attachments: Transfer it to another legal target it could attach to.

3) Diagotsu resolves the share effect. 4) Sharing is a rulebook effect, and is preformed by the player rather than the personality, no trigger occurs. Saya merely waits for Diagotsu to preform an action, or assign to attack or defend.

With this in mind does this also affect Lobbying for the Imperial Favor or attaching an item/follower/spell.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 12 February 2008

I had a case where someone stated that rulebook actions were treated differently than normal actions, in that the player performs them rather than their personality.

That's not true.

There are not different rules for "on the card" and "in the rulebook." It totally depends on the action.