Three Stone River and Desperate Wager (L5R rules board)

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 28 January 2008

Hello all,

Here is the situation that I would like to get an answer for:

I attack with 4 units without followers in one province. My opponent blocks with one unit and on his chance to play a battle action he plays a Three Stone river. The battle ends, our personalities suffer a force penalty going down to 1 force and the battle concludes with me getting 2 honor from killing him.

Then I play Desperate Wager, assigning the same personalities on one battlefield. Will the force of my army still stay down to 1 force per unit, or the terrain's effect will wear off and the force will get to normal again?

Here are the cards reference:

Three stone river Terrain Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.

Desperate Wager You can play only one Desperate Wager per turn. Reaction: Before your Dynasty Phase begins: Straighten all your Personalities. Declare an additional Attack Phase. After its Declaration Segment, straighten all the Defender’s Personalities and Followers; this straightening can not be negated. You lose the game at the end of this turn.

Relevant posts and rules: http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_T#Terrain viewtopic.php?f=59&t=64836&p=832961&hilit=Terrain+Duration#p832961

Thanks in advance for any help.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 28 January 2008

I attack with 4 units without followers in one province. My opponent blocks with one unit and on his chance to play a battle action he plays a Three Stone river. The battle ends, our personalities suffer a force penalty going down to 1 force and the battle concludes with me getting 2 honor from killing him. Then I play Desperate Wager, assigning the same personalities on one battlefield. Will the force of my army still stay down to 1 force per unit, or the terrain's effect will wear off and the force will get to normal again?

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_T#Terrain: "If a Terrain leaves play, its effects with a duration end." Penalties are effects with durations. They're gone.

On: Three-Stone River, Desperate Wager