Gained Abilities and Once Per Turn

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 January 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 17 January 2008

Following situation:

I have a personality in play with the followers Brothers in Arms and Brothers in Arms Exp. I use the Battle ability, granted by the Brothers in Arms Exp., on the normal Brothers in Arms. Later that turn the Brothers in Arms Exp. get destroyed and go to the discard pile. Now the normal Brothers in Arms has lost its Battle ability. Now I use Castle Barracks to attach the Brothers in Arms Exp. to a personality, giving the Battle ability to all Brothers in Arms. Can the normal Brothers in Arms use his ability now? The main question is if a card gains an ability, loses it, and regains it later in the turn, is it restricted by the once per turn rule of abilities? The rulebook says each seperate ability can only be used once per turn. Are the gained and regained abilities the same or seperate? Thank you for your time.

Martin Lund (rules official), 17 January 2008

Following situation:

I have a personality in play with the followers Brothers in Arms and Brothers in Arms Exp. I use the Battle ability, granted by the Brothers in Arms Exp., on the normal Brothers in Arms. Later that turn the Brothers in Arms Exp. get destroyed and go to the discard pile. Now the normal Brothers in Arms has lost its Battle ability. Now I use Castle Barracks to attach the Brothers in Arms Exp. to a personality, giving the Battle ability to all Brothers in Arms. Can the normal Brothers in Arms use his ability now? The main question is if a card gains an ability, loses it, and regains it later in the turn, is it restricted by the once per turn rule of abilities? The rulebook says each seperate ability can only be used once per turn. Are the gained and regained abilities the same or seperate? Thank you for your time.

It is considered to be a new effect on the card - and thus a new ability on the card distinct from any other the card might have or have had in the past.