Global events force boost duration

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 January 2008 to 17 January 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 15 January 2008

On events like, Dawn of the Spider or Wrath of the People, do force effects continually check even after a force reduction? For example I have a SL Human at a battle with Dawn of the Spider, my opponent drops a three stone river lowering his force to 1 at battle resolution, would the +2 force from the event reapply after the terrain resolves?

-Matt

Martin Lund (rules official), 16 January 2008

On events like, Dawn of the Spider or Wrath of the People, do force effects continually check even after a force reduction? For example I have a SL Human at a battle with Dawn of the Spider, my opponent drops a three stone river lowering his force to 1 at battle resolution, would the +2 force from the event reapply after the terrain resolves?

-Matt

I'm not sure I understand the question.

Three-stone River does not stop any existing bonuses or penalties from being applied. They are still there. Three-stone River just adds another Force Penalty to the cards in question.

A player, 17 January 2008

Following up on this thread http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=64876. So I guess my main question would be after Three Stone River's effect has resolved reducing my personalities force to 1, would the events (Dawn of the Spider, Arrival of the Phoeinx, or Wrath of the People) raise my force back up by +2? Essentially making my force 3 on personalities there?

-Matt

Martin Lund (rules official), 17 January 2008

Following up on this thread http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=64876. So I guess my main question would be after Three Stone River's effect has resolved reducing my personalities force to 1, would the events (Dawn of the Spider, Arrival of the Phoeinx, or Wrath of the People) raise my force back up by +2? Essentially making my force 3 on personalities there?

-Matt

They already raised your Force, and then Three-Stone River gave your a Force Penalty large enough to reduce your boosted Force to 1.

For example, use Kodomo with her 1F, and Wrath of the People: "your Unaligned Human Personalities have +2F"

Kodomo has 3F during the Combat Segment: 1F Base + 2F from Wrath of the People.

Three-Stone River gives Kodomo -2F, so now her total is 1F: 1F Base + 2F from Wrath of the People -2F from Three-Stone River.

You only ever get +2F from Wrath of the People. Gaining another +2F after Three-Stone River resolved would mean you got +4F, not +2F. That doesn't happen.