A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 9 November 2007
Hi, another question here:
I play razor of the dawn Castle. During a battle, i play Impressive resilience on one of my samurai. My opponement targets that samurai with Unexpected Intimidation. As the move and the bowing are negated, the card kills my samurai; but i delay the death with Razor of the dawn Castle.
At the end of the turn, my samurai dies. Can i save him with a Duty, or will he be removed from the game?
Unexpected Intimidation: Battle: Bow one of your target Personalities: Move a target enemy Personality home. If this movement is negated, bow him. If this bowing is negated, destroy him. If this destruction is negated, remove him from the game.
Razor of the dawn castle: Before another player's card's effect destroys one of your Samurai: Once per turn, you may delay the destruction until the current turn ends.
Duty: Bushido Virtue Reaction: Before another player’s card’s effect destroys one of your Personalities, destroy one of your honorable Samurai Personalities at the same location: Negate the first Personality’s destruction.
Impressive Resilience: Battle: Target an opposed Personality. The target gains +2F and cannot bow or move during the current Combat Segment.
Martin Lund (rules official), 9 November 2007
Hi, another question here:
I play razor of the dawn Castle. During a battle, i play Impressive resilience on one of my samurai. My opponement targets that samurai with Unexpected Intimidation. As the move and the bowing are negated, the card kills my samurai; but i delay the death with Razor of the dawn Castle.
At the end of the turn, my samurai dies. Can i save him with a Duty, or will he be removed from the game?
Unexpected Intimidation: Battle: Bow one of your target Personalities: Move a target enemy Personality home. If this movement is negated, bow him. If this bowing is negated, destroy him. If this destruction is negated, remove him from the game.
Razor of the dawn castle: Before another player's card's effect destroys one of your Samurai: Once per turn, you may delay the destruction until the current turn ends.
Duty: Bushido Virtue Reaction: Before another player’s card’s effect destroys one of your Personalities, destroy one of your honorable Samurai Personalities at the same location: Negate the first Personality’s destruction.
Impressive Resilience: Battle: Target an opposed Personality. The target gains +2F and cannot bow or move during the current Combat Segment.
I'm going to talk this one over with the Rules Team.
Martin Lund (rules official), 21 November 2007
After some consultation amongst the Rules Team members we've reached this conclusion.
Each of those references to "if this effect ..." are keyed to the application of the effect they refer to. They do not "whiff" if the effect they key off of is Delayed.
So if you play Duty, even after Delaying the death of Unexpected Intimidation, the modifying clause of "If this destruction is negated, remove him from the game," still applies.
- Marty Lund Deputy Rules Monkey