Hida Sozen Exp and chi penalty

L5R CCG Rules board, 11 October 2007

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A player, 11 October 2007

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Based on this topic Hida Sozen Exp. can't die if he receives a chi penalty from another player action right? But that applies even if that penalty comes from a token? He continually denies his destruction turn after turn since the token stays with him forever?

To say yes to that is to say that he's been currently targeted by another player action that kills him over and over and he denies it every time isn't it?

Maybe I'm just writing a lot of nonsense. But I had this doubt. Thanks in advance!

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 11 October 2007

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Based on this topic Hida Sozen Exp. can't die if he receives a chi penalty from another player action right? But that applies even if that penalty comes from a token? He continually denies his destruction turn after turn since the token stays with him forever?

To say yes to that is to say that he's been currently targeted by another player action that kills him over and over and he denies it every time isn't it?

Maybe I'm just writing a lot of nonsense. But I had this doubt. Thanks in advance!

http://rules.l5r.com/Non-card_physical_game_elements: "Effects of tokens come from the card or other source that created them."

Sozen cannot resist chi penalties of all tokens -- tokens generated by non-action effects would get him. But if from an action, he's safe.