Re: Dirty Politics vs Entering Play honor gains

L5R CCG Rules board, 18 September 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 18 September 2007

Concerning viewtopic.php?f=59&t=61805&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

From the CR:

* If he has not already gained Honor this way this turn, gain Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor just before he enters play (also known as "buying for Honor"). The Honor gain is for the Personality entering play, and if anything causes the Personality not to enter play, the Honor gain does not happen.

The response concerning triggered traits suggests that the honor gain for entering play was in fact gained (ie, has gained honor this way this turn) whereas the use of Dirty Politics prevented it from happening.

Am I misinterpreting the rules?

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 18 September 2007

Concerning viewtopic.php?f=59&t=61805&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

From the CR:

* If he has not already gained Honor this way this turn, gain Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor just before he enters play (also known as "buying for Honor"). The Honor gain is for the Personality entering play, and if anything causes the Personality not to enter play, the Honor gain does not happen.

The response concerning triggered traits suggests that the honor gain for entering play was in fact gained (ie, has gained honor this way this turn) whereas the use of Dirty Politics prevented it from happening.

Am I misinterpreting the rules?

Hm. I see the point. Dirty Politics is played "before" a player gains honor. I'll fix it.