A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 17 August 2007
Hello. Looked for this on Rules fourm and wiki, but found none except hints...
1) When I use a Terrain Fate card, is it considered playing a card (because : according to Terrain rules, Terrain is put into play), or playing ability from a card with side effect of putting Terrain into play ? According to definition of PLAY, this is not the same, and in first case, act of PLAYING a terrain doesn't count for it's own 'once per turn' limit, and there may be fuzzy ruling for cards that look for Battle ability and plays it (like : Superior Strategist or Unshakable).
2) Terrain rules states (A) that 'its effects resolve' and that Terrain 'enters play'. When (by default, for generic terrain) following triggers occur : 'this (playing a terrain) action ends' and 'it's efect ends' ? Is it dependent on specific terrain effects?
Reference : A Battle action with the Terrain keyword represents the ground on which a battle is fought. Terrains follow special rules. A) * Terrains are played as a Battle action. After a Terrain’s costs (if any) are paid, its card enters play at the current battlefield, and its effects resolve; do not discard it. A Terrain is not on either side, but it is at the battlefield, and can be destroyed. B) * A Terrain action cannot be played if a Terrain is already in play at the current battlefield. C) * When a Terrain leaves play, its effects with a duration end, and any of its delayed effects will not happen. D) * After battle resolution, discard any Terrains in play at that battlefield. Copied from SE ruleook preview, checked with SE printed rulebook, bullets have been labeled for easy reference.
Thank you.
[EDIT:There's no size 9 in phpbb3.0, only size 85...]
Martin Lund (rules official), 17 August 2007
Hello. Looked for this on Rules fourm and wiki, but found none except hints...
1) When I use a Terrain Fate card, is it considered playing a card (because : according to Terrain rules, Terrain is put into play), or playing ability from a card with side effect of putting Terrain into play ? According to definition of PLAY, this is not the same, and in first case, act of PLAYING a terrain doesn't count for it's own 'once per turn' limit, and there may be fuzzy ruling for cards that look for Battle ability and plays it (like : Superior Strategist or Unshakable).
2) Terrain rules states (A) that 'its effects resolve' and that Terrain 'enters play'. When (by default, for generic terrain) following triggers occur : 'this (playing a terrain) action ends' and 'it's efect ends' ? Is it dependent on specific terrain effects?
Reference : A Battle action with the Terrain keyword represents the ground on which a battle is fought. Terrains follow special rules. A) * Terrains are played as a Battle action. After a Terrain’s costs (if any) are paid, its card enters play at the current battlefield, and its effects resolve; do not discard it. A Terrain is not on either side, but it is at the battlefield, and can be destroyed. B) * A Terrain action cannot be played if a Terrain is already in play at the current battlefield. C) * When a Terrain leaves play, its effects with a duration end, and any of its delayed effects will not happen. D) * After battle resolution, discard any Terrains in play at that battlefield. Copied from SE ruleook preview, checked with SE printed rulebook, bullets have been labeled for easy reference.
Thank you.
[EDIT:There's no size 9 in phpbb3.0, only size 85...]
I don't really understand your questions at all.
"Terrain" is a keyword that shows up on Action cards. You play them as Action cards, with special rules because of the Terrain keyword - like entering play (instead of remaining in the Resolution Area) and remaining in play until removed (instead of being discarded after its immediate effects resolve).
No card in Samurai Edition should instruct you to "put a Terrain into play," as one of its effects. You should only be instructed to "play" Terrain cards.