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A player, 10 August 2007
Regarding this post:
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If the action on a Chuda Hankyu does not preclude you from gaining honor via Lies, Lies, Lies, then is the same true for any action card that has an honor loss as an effect?
For example, Hired Killer reads "Limited: Pay Gold equal to the target's unit's Gold Cost plus 2: Lose 3 Honor. Destroy a target Personality." By the above ruling, the card does not create the honor loss, the action printed on it does, and therefore does not prevent the honor gain from Lies, Lies, Lies.
If that is true, then are the only effects that would preclude the honor gain from Lies, Lies, Lies entering play effects and such that cause an honor loss without taking an action on the card in question?
Thanks for clarifying!
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 August 2007
If the action on a Chuda Hankyu does not preclude you from gaining honor via Lies, Lies, Lies, then is the same true for any action card that has an honor loss as an effect?
Yes. I believe that's how it's always worked, but don't have an old printing handy at the moment.
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 28 November 2007
Reversal on this. Lies, Lies, Lies... checks for actions, too.