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A player, 27 July 2007
in reference with that topic viewtopic.php?f=59&t=59606
If i understand well it means that the text of the MSD itself says that yoy could not move into the current battlefield independently to the ranged attack legality.
So if i understand correctly the following scenario is not correct:
A crane samourai A is at battlefield 1, we actually resolve battlefield B, I use the Moutain shadow's dojo with A saying i would moving him in the battlefield 2. And I react the targeting of the ranged attack with Burn it down (alternative solution: no hiding place) to make the ranged attack legal.
Could you please confirm.
Texts of card: Mountain’s Shadow Dojo Battle: Even if this Stronghold is bowed, target one of your Crane Clan Samurai: Ranged 3 Attack. Move him home or to another battlefield.
Burn it Down Reaction: After you announce an action with a Ranged Attack effect: One of the Ranged Attacks may target this battlefield’s province instead of an enemy card. If it does, reduce the province’s Strength by the Ranged Attack’s strength when it resolves.
No Hiding Place Reaction: Before you target a Ranged Attack from one of your attacking cards: The Ranged Attack has -1 and may target a card even if it is in the Defender’s home.
ps: concerning a remark on a precedent post, sorry about my english, i will try to be clearer.
Martin Lund (rules official), 27 July 2007
in reference with that topic viewtopic.php?f=59&t=59606
If i understand well it means that the text of the MSD itself says that yoy could not move into the current battlefield independently to the ranged attack legality.
So if i understand correctly the following scenario is not correct:
A crane samourai A is at battlefield 1, we actually resolve battlefield B, I use the Moutain shadow's dojo with A saying i would moving him in the battlefield 2. And I react the targeting of the ranged attack with Burn it down (alternative solution: no hiding place) to make the ranged attack legal.
Could you please confirm.
Texts of card: Mountain’s Shadow Dojo Battle: Even if this Stronghold is bowed, target one of your Crane Clan Samurai: Ranged 3 Attack. Move him home or to another battlefield.
Burn it Down Reaction: After you announce an action with a Ranged Attack effect: One of the Ranged Attacks may target this battlefield’s province instead of an enemy card. If it does, reduce the province’s Strength by the Ranged Attack’s strength when it resolves.
No Hiding Place Reaction: Before you target a Ranged Attack from one of your attacking cards: The Ranged Attack has -1 and may target a card even if it is in the Defender’s home.
ps: concerning a remark on a precedent post, sorry about my english, i will try to be clearer.
OK, first I need try to restate what I think your question is asking:
The situation we have involves 2 Battlefields: Battlefield #1 and Battlefield #2. The situation we have involves a Crane Clan Samurai.
The Crane Clan Samurai is at Battlefield #1 and we're in the Combat Segment of Battlefield #2.
You want to use Mountain's Shadow Dojo.
You normally need to meet the following requirements to make a legal play:
- Target your Crane Clan Samurai to move him to Battlefield #2 (Location & Presence)
Nothing gets in the way of that, so you're clear here.
- Target an enemy card at Battlefield #2 (Location)
If you introduce Burn it Down or No Hiding Place, they have card text that waives the Rule of Location Requirement as it pertains to the target victim of the Ranged Attack.
The only problem is, No Hiding Place requires the Ranged Attack to come from an Attacking Card, and your Stronghold (which has the ability) is not Attacking. No Hiding Place can not be legally combined with Mountain's Shadow Dojo's ability.
Burn It Down will let you get around this second requirement - provided there is a legal target. Burn It Down wouldn't work with an Ambush battle (no Province to target).
Martin Lund (rules official), 30 July 2007
Edited for Correctness - No Hiding Place doesn't work with Ranged Attack abilities that aren't on attacking cards - like the Ranged Attack ability on Mountain's Shadow Dojo (a Stronghold, which can not attack).
- Marty Lund Deputy Rules Monkey