open actions on cards prior SE

L5R CCG Rules board, 5 July 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 5 July 2007

In rules we see that

"During the Combat Segment, the only action types that can be taken are Battle and Reaction Actions. Battle actions must follow the additional rules of Presence and Location."

In samurai the cards are cleary marked so they have not problem so, for example,

TOGASHI KAZUKI (SE print)

Dragon Clan • Monk • Samurai Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control.Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki's Force or his Chi to Kazuki's Chi.

we see that we cannot use his abbilty during the battle action segement, but with cards prior to SE there isn't this distinction, for example with

YORITOMO UTEMARO (KD)

Mantis Clan • Samurai • Hero • Naval • Experienced • Unique. Open: Pay 3 Gold: Target a Follower in play or in any player’s discard pile. Attach it to a target Personality you control, waiving costs and ignoring its Honor Requirement. Lose Honor equal to the Follower’s Honor Requirement if you do not own it.

¿Could his action be used during the battle segment?

Can his actiong be used during the battle action segment?

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 5 July 2007

In rules we see that

"During the Combat Segment, the only action types that can be taken are Battle and Reaction Actions. Battle actions must follow the additional rules of Presence and Location."

In samurai the cards are cleary marked so they have not problem so, for example,

TOGASHI KAZUKI (SE print)

Dragon Clan • Monk • Samurai Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control.Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki's Force or his Chi to Kazuki's Chi.

we see that we cannot use his abbilty during the battle action segement, but with cards prior to SE there isn't this distinction, for example with

YORITOMO UTEMARO (KD)

Mantis Clan • Samurai • Hero • Naval • Experienced • Unique. Open: Pay 3 Gold: Target a Follower in play or in any player’s discard pile. Attach it to a target Personality you control, waiving costs and ignoring its Honor Requirement. Lose Honor equal to the Follower’s Honor Requirement if you do not own it.

¿Could his action be used during the battle segment?

Can his actiong be used during the battle action segment?

This is really a tournament judge question. See the Legacy format forum, who are giving thought to these kinds of questions.

There is no "grandfather" clause for Open actions in the Samurai Edition rules.