A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 29 June 2007
Is the trait of the HoA concerning the dead lion personality considering a negation of effect that would removed thoose personality from the game?
I mean if i have an action that removed a dead personality from the dead (let's say fury of the dark lord for exemple) and i play a determination on it: will it cleans all the personality of the HoA or not?
edit: on a second thougth, does a kill action action boosted by determination wouldn't do that already: i mean does the "removed the personality" clause of determination fall under the "can not be negated" clause or not ?
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 29 June 2007
Is the trait of the (Halls of the ancestors) concerning the dead lion personality considering a negation of effect that would removed thoose personality from the game?
Yes.
does a kill action action boosted by determination wouldn't do that already: i mean does the "removed the personality" clause of determination fall under the "can not be negated" clause or not ?
As currently worded (i.e., not Samurai), using Determination on a destruction effect will not remove a Personality owned by Hall of Ancestors from the game, for several reasons.
The removal from the game is Determination's own effect, not the original actions, and can be negated.
Determination's removal from the game is not instead of destruction; it's an additional effect. Thus, the Personality is destroyed and comes under protection of the Stronghold before Determination can apply the removal effect.