A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 25 June 2007
Since I believe the rules team is answering general rules questions about Samurai Edition (but not about new cards) this is about 3 or 4 already printed cards and their interactions with each other.
Most specifically, Chi Death and Traits/Actions that Negate Destruction.
I am to understand that Chi death is now ruled to be coming from an effect that is caused by the card that created the final chi loss.
Muketsu gives -2C tokens out when a ring bows (like candy!)
Hida Yaheiko is a 5F/2C Berseker personality that has a Reaction that reads "Whenever another player's card effect would destroy Yaheiko: Negate the destruction"
If Muketsu were to give give her a -2C token, and I were to use her reaction what would happen?
A) Yaheiko negates the effect, and the token is eliminated/made into a -0C token.
B) Yaheiko negates the destruction effect, but the chi penalty remains, and is destroyed immediately thereafter.
Hida Sozen (Experienced) has the trait that he cannot be destroyed by other player's actions. Assuming he were to be reduced to 2C by other means and then be given a -2C token from Muketsu, what would happen?
A) His trait triggers and the action's effects fail. Hida Sozen still has 2 Chi.
B) His trait triggers and the action's effects succeed, but Sozen cannot be destroyed by them, thus Sozen has 0 Chi and does not die.
C) His trait triggers and the action's effects succeed, the first instance of 0 Chi does not kill him but he still has 0 Chi afterward, and the rulebook effect destroys him.
Did I mention I hate Chi death as a mechanical aspect of this game?
My own snide comments aside, thank you for answering this question.
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 25 June 2007
Since I believe the rules team is answering general rules questions about Samurai Edition (but not about new cards) this is about 3 or 4 already printed cards and their interactions with each other.
Most specifically, Chi Death and Traits/Actions that Negate Destruction.
I am to understand that Chi death is now ruled to be coming from an effect that is caused by the card that created the final chi loss.
Muketsu gives -2C tokens out when a ring bows (like candy!)
Hida Yaheiko is a 5F/2C Berseker personality that has a Reaction that reads "Whenever another player's card effect would destroy Yaheiko: Negate the destruction"
If Muketsu were to give give her a -2C token, and I were to use her reaction what would happen?
A) Yaheiko negates the effect, and the token is eliminated/made into a -0C token.
B) Yaheiko negates the destruction effect, but the chi penalty remains, and is destroyed immediately thereafter.
Hida Sozen (Experienced) has the trait that he cannot be destroyed by other player's actions. Assuming he were to be reduced to 2C by other means and then be given a -2C token from Muketsu, what would happen?
A) His trait triggers and the action's effects fail. Hida Sozen still has 2 Chi.
B) His trait triggers and the action's effects succeed, but Sozen cannot be destroyed by them, thus Sozen has 0 Chi and does not die.
C) His trait triggers and the action's effects succeed, the first instance of 0 Chi does not kill him but he still has 0 Chi afterward, and the rulebook effect destroys him.
Did I mention I hate Chi death as a mechanical aspect of this game?
My own snide comments aside, thank you for answering this question.
Same basic question and answer here: viewtopic.php?t=57674
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 26 June 2007
It's been pointed out to me that the Experienced Hida Sozen has unusual text: he continually negates destruction from any effect. Thus, he will not die when another player's card reduces his Chi to 0.
This does not apply to cards with effects that say, "Negate the destruction."