RE: Lose Honor costs for Spider and Shadowlands

L5R CCG Rules board, 13 June 2007

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A player, 13 June 2007

In regards to this post:

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Sorry, I should have made myself clearer.

Its just that Spider House says that they can't lose honor from fate cards, but some of the cards I posted in there (I'm not sure on this), I think have a "Lose X honor" cost in them. If so, can they still use those cards?

The Special Rule for Shadowlands is a different one. I'm asking if the cards listed can be used by Spider Clan, can they also be used by the Shadowlands Horde players? Do the same rule regarding "Lose X Honor" cost also apply to them?

Thanks!

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 13 June 2007

Its just that Spider House says that they can't lose honor from fate cards, but some of the cards I posted in there (I'm not sure on this), I think have a "Lose X honor" cost in them. If so, can they still use those cards?

If it's a cost, not effectively, no. Lotus rules, pg. 42: "A cost that requires changing something is only paid if the change fully occurs."