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A player, 7 June 2005
Ikoma Ken wrote:
On this point is it not a function of the ruling that the gold cost on action cards is not a cost of the action but a cost of playing the card that adding a cost to an action is not affecting the card? Therefore p. 55 of the DE rulebook does not apply to Political Outcast.
I do not understand your point here. Sorry, but I can't follow that first sentence.
Some months back it was ruled that when Doji Konishiko copied an action on a card with a gold cost in the coin on the card that the copy did not have the cost. The only way this ruling makes sense is that the gold coin value is the gold cost of playing the card not the action. See here: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13173&highlight=konishiko
Therefore since it has been established that an action card can have a gold cost independent of any action on the card it makes sense that actions on the card can have costs independent of any cost of the card. Therfore their costs can be modified independently of the costs of the card due to a particular game state. Therefore Political Outcast adds a cost to open and limited actions on cards independently of the card the action is printed on.
BTW the inability to respond to rulings in the same thread is very annoying. Would it be possible to set PHPBB to allow the thread author to reply in his threads?
Jeff Alexander (rules official), 7 June 2005
Some months back it was ruled that when Doji Konishiko copied an action on a card with a gold cost in the coin on the card that the copy did not have the cost. The only way this ruling makes sense is that the gold coin value is the gold cost of playing the card not the action. See here: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13173&highlight=konishiko
Therefore since it has been established that an action card can have a gold cost independent of any action on the card it makes sense that actions on the card can have costs independent of any cost of the card. Therfore their costs can be modified independently of the costs of the card due to a particular game state. Therefore Political Outcast adds a cost to open and limited actions on cards independently of the card the action is printed on.
BTW the inability to respond to rulings in the same thread is very annoying. Would it be possible to set PHPBB to allow the thread author to reply in his threads?
You are splitting hairs unnecessarily. There is no functional difference between the Gold cost of an action card and any additional (rulesheet) costs in the action itself. They must all be paid to take the given action.
Konishiko doesn't copy the card's Gold cost because it is not written within the text that she copies. This is not a tricky or precedent-setting ruling.
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 7 June 2005
The inability to respond to rulings in the same thread is very annoying. Would it be possible to set PHPBB to allow the thread author to reply in his threads?
It is not technically possible.