Singular/Unique & Suitengu's Surge

L5R CCG Rules board, 18 May 2005

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A player, 18 May 2005

Here is the questions :

Q1 : I have a singular peep in play, my opponent target him and I use Suitegu's Surge to put it out of play. On my dynasty phase, I put another copy of the Singular peep into play. What happens at the start of my turn?

a : Surged singular stay out of play, for ever

b : Surged singular stays out of play until I lose control of the other singular, then immediatly enters play.

c : Surged singular does something else

Q2 : Same as Q1, but replace Singular peep with a peep with an attached singular item.

Q3 : I have a unique peep in play, my opponent target him and I use Suitegu's Surge to put it out of play. On his dynasty phase, he puts another copy of the Unique peep into play. What happens at the start of my turn?

a : Surged unique stay out of play, for ever

b : Surged unique stays out of play until one of us lose control of the other unique, then immediatly enters play (in case of an Egg of P'an Ku).

c : Surged unique does something else

Q4 : Same as Q3 but with a unique Item instead of unique peep.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 18 May 2005

I have a singular Personality in play, my opponent target him and I use Suitegu's Surge to put it out of play. On my dynasty phase, I put another copy of the Singular Personality into play. What happens at the start of my turn? Same as above, but replace Singular Personality with a peep with an attached singular item.

Because Suitengu's Surge only tries to return a unit once (card text), and it returns all attached cards (card text) with no provision for "breaking up" the unit, this one for both:

Surged singular stay out of play, for ever

I have a unique Personality in play, my opponent target him and I use Suitegu's Surge to put it out of play. On his dynasty phase, he puts another copy of the Unique Personality into play. What happens at the start of my turn?

Because Suitengu's Surge only tries to return a unit once (card text), and it returns all attached cards (card text), this one for both: